November 22,, 2023
The final estimate of consumer sentiment for November fell 2.5 points to 61.3 after declining 4.1 points in October. In fact, this is the fourth consecutive decline in sentiment which reached a peak in July at 71.6.
Surveys of Consumers Director Joanne Hsu said, “November’s reading reflects a balance of factors, some of which improved while others worsened. More-favorable current assessments and expectations of personal finances were offset by a notable deterioration in expected business conditions. In particular, long-run business conditions plunged by 15% to its lowest since July 2022. Younger and middle-aged consumers exhibited strong declines in economic attitudes this month, while sentiment of those age 55 and older improved from October.
Many consumers have been concerned by the fact that while their nominal earnings were rising, inflation is eroding their purchasing power and, as a result, wages in real terms have been declining. In recent months they have stopped falling but they are certainly not regaining any of their lost ground.
Given that sentiment is as a very low level, one might expect to see consumers cutting back sharply on their spending. Thus far there is little evidence of that. Consumer spending is growing steadily.
The funds rate currently stands at 5.5%, The core inflation rate is likely to be 3.9% at yearend. Thus, the real funds rate is +1.6%. But 3.9% inflation is double the Fed’s targeted 2.0% pace. For this reason we expect the Fed to keep the funds rate steady until the second half of 2024.
Both the University of Michigan’s consumer sentiment index and the Conference Board’s measure of consumer confidence show a modest rebound in the past couple of months. The two series can diverge from one month to the next, but the trends are similar.
We expect GDP growth of 1.5% in the fourth quarter as the economy continues to crank out jobs and wages rise. However, GDP growth is likely to be 0.7% or so in the first two quarters of 2024.
Consumer expectations for six months from now fell from 59.3 to 56.9.
Consumers’ assessment of current conditions declined from 70.6 to 65.7.
Stephen Slifer
NumberNomics
Charleston, SC
Going forward to the next reporting point will consumers focus on President Trump’s positive commentary for “Negative Interest Rates” and “Refinancing the US debt”
Since a lot of folks have savings accounts one would think :negative interest rates” would create negative consumer sentiment
Most people associate “refinancing” with financial difficulties
I wonder if that will have a negative on consumer sentiment
HI Allen,
Good question. But, at least in my mind, it is a moot point here in the U.S. I don’t think we will ever see negative rates but, then again, some of these other countries around the globe never thought they would get there either. If we should get to the point where negative rates become possible let’s keep an eye on confidence as you suggest. The soonest that might occur would be in the midst of the next downturn — whenever that is.
Steve
Steve
The rise in inflation and interest rates appears inevitable.
I am concerned about the effect this will have on our ability to meet our federal debt obligations.
At some point in the future will we reach a tipping point where cannot pay the interest on the debt?
Then what happens?
Hi Bill,
I have been worried about debt for some time. The path we are on seems unsustainable to me. Debt as a percent of GDP has climbed to 103%. The record was 106% right after WWII. But at that point you cut defense spending sharply and the ratio shrank quickly. This time 70% of the deficit each year is entitlements. Those will be difficult to cut and, hence, the ability to shrink the deficit to something manageable (3% of GDP) is unlikely.
Specifically, with re: to your question about inflation, inflation helps to shrink the deficit. If we get nominal GDP growth of, say, 10% (4% real growth + 6% inflation) revenue growth should be roughly 10%, Yes, interest rates will rise, and interest on the debt outstanding will climb. At the same time some government expenditures will shrink (think welfare payments, Medicaid). An easy way to resolve the budget/debt problem is some good old fashioned inflation.
While inflation may help the government, it hurts the rest of us, especially older people trying to live on a fixed income, and lower income individuals who do not get the benefits of higher home prices and higher stock market valuations.
The reality is that debt/GDP of 103% is not sustainable. If we have a problem like in 2020, when the Treasury loses tax receipts and government spending increases, the budget deficit explodes, and debt in relation to GDP takes a huge jump. Having said that, I have been worried about debt for ages and nothing bad has happened — yet. That does not suggest that we are supposed to ignore it. There will be a day of reckoning, but you and I may not be around to see it.
Steve- great information, is there any data on the distribution of consumer net worth i.e. is it even across income levels or aggregated in one or more segments? Could this explain some of the differences in consumer sentiment?
Hi George. Net worth is decidedly NOT evenly distributed. I have not looked for that information specifically, but just a quick check I found online which seems to give us a sense. It turns out that a PEW Research Center study noted that upper income families (which I guess it defines as income greater than $207,400 in 2018) held 79% of the wealth. The middle income group which I guess ranges from $28,700 in 2018 to $207,400 held 17% of the wealth, and the lower income category (less than $28.700) had 4%. The data are obviously old, but I am sure the numbers have changed not all that changed much. The bulk of that wealth comes from the stock market and home ownership. Thus, low income earners do not share much in the wealth of the country. Middle income earners have more, but still relatively little. The wealthier Americans have by far the biggest share of the pie. Thus, it seems to make sense that if you do a survey of consumer confidence, lower income earning families included in the survey are being hit hard and their confidence has plummeted. A big portion of their income goes to housing, gas, and food — all of which have risen sharply in price. They were just getting by before and now they have to make a choice — Pay the rent? Buy food for the family? Fill the car with gas?
But what bothers me the most is that the U of Michigan survey has confidence plummeting — below the 2020 low, and below the 2008-09 recession low. I am not sure that makes sense to me. The Conference Board measure of consumer confidence has it dropping, but the decline is not nearly as dramatic. So which is the better measure? The Conference Board data seem more consistent with the consumer spending data — some slowdown but not dropping off a cliff. I guess we will see.
Steve
another great article, Steve! Thanks as always
Thanks Michelle. Nice to hear from you. Hope all is well.